هل عبارة لان ابن الانسان لم ياتي ليهلك انفس الناس بل ليخلص مضافة ؟ لوقا 9: 55- 56
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الشبهة
كريسباخ أسقط الجزء الأخير من هذه الآيات من لوقا 9: 56 وهو قوله
56لأَنَّ ابْنَ الإِنْسَانِ لَمْ يَأْتِ لِيُهْلِكَ أَنْفُسَ النَّاسِ، بَلْ لِيُخَلِّصَ
الرد
في البداية ارجو مراجعة ملف
لستما تعلمان من اي روح انتما لوقا 9: 55
الحقيقه هذا العدد مرتبط بالعدد السابق له وهو حزف خطا بسبب النهايات المتشابهة
ولدراسته جيدا يجب ان درس العددين معا 55 و 56 وندرس ادلة خارجية وداخلية
الادلة خارجية
الفانديك
انجيل لوقا 9
9: 55 فالتفت و انتهرهما و قال لستما تعلمان من اي روح انتما
9: 56 لان ابن الانسان لم يات ليهلك انفس الناس بل ليخلص فمضوا الى قرية اخرى
الحياة
55 فالتفت إليهما ووبخهما قائلا: لا تعلمان من أي روح أنتما،
56 لأن ابن الإنسان أتى لا ليهلك نفوس الناس، بل ليخلصها. ثم ذهبوا إلى قرية أخرى.
اما التي حذفت المقطع
اليسوعية
55 فالتفت يسوع وانتهرهما.
56 فمضوا إلى قرية أخرى.
السارة
55 فالتفت يسوع وانتهرهما،
56 فساروا إلى قرية أخرى.
الكاثوليكية
لو-9-55: فالتَفَتَ يسوعُ وانتَهَرَهما.
لو-9-56: فمَضَوا إِلى قَريَةٍ أُخرى.
التراجم الانجليزية
( وسندرس عدد 55 لان التراجم النقدية ضمت الاثنين معا )
Luk 9:55
(Murdock) And he turned and rebuked them, and said: Ye know not of what spirit ye are.
(ALT) But having turned, He rebuked them, {and said, "You do not know of what sort of spirit youp are!}
(ACV) But having turned around, he rebuked them, and said, Ye do not know what kind of spirit ye are.
(AKJ) But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, You know not what manner of spirit you are of.
(ALTNT) But having turned, He rebuked them, {and said, "You do not know of what sort of spirit you* are!}
(AMP) But He turned and rebuked and severely censured them. [20] He said, You do not know of what sort of spirit you are,
(AUV-NT) But He turned to them and spoke sternly. Some manuscripts add “You do not know what kind of a spirit you represent,
(VW) But He turned and rebuked them, and said, You do not know what sort of spirit you are of.
(Bishops) Iesus turned about, & rebuked them, saying: Ye wote not what maner spirite ye are of.
(Mace) but Jesus turn'd, and rebuked them, saying, you don't know by what spirit you are moved.
(Darby) But turning he rebuked them and said, Ye know not of what spirit ye are .
(DIA) Turning and he rebuked them, and said: Not you know, of what spirit are you?
(DRB) And turning, he rebuked them, saying: you know not of what spirit you are.
(EMTV) But turning, He rebuked them, and said, "You do not know of what sort of spirit you are.
(Etheridge) But he turned and reproved them, and said, You know not of what spirit you are:
(EVID) But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, You know not what manner of spirit you are of.
(FDB) Et, se tournant, il les censura fortement et dit: Vous ne savez de quel esprit vous êtes animés!
(FLS) Jésus se tourna vers eux, et les réprimanda, disant: Vous ne savez de quel esprit vous êtes animés.
(GEB) Er wandte sich aber um und strafte sie [und sprach: Ihr wisset nicht, wes Geistes ihr seid].
(Geneva) But Iesus turned about, & rebuked them, and said, Ye knowe not of what spirit ye are.
(GLB) Jesus aber wandte sich um und bedrohte sie und sprach: Wisset ihr nicht, welches Geistes Kinder ihr seid?
(HNV) But he turned and rebuked them, "You don't know of what kind of spirit you are.
(IAV NC) But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of.
(IAV) But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of.
(ISRAV) But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of.
(JST) But he turned and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of.
(JOSMTH) But he turned and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of.
(KJ2000) But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, You know not what manner of spirit you are of.
(KJVCNT) But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, You know not what manner of spirit you are of.
(KJCNT) But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, You know not what manner of spirit you are of.
(KJV) But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of.
(KJV-Clar) But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, You know not what manner of spirit you are of.
(KJV-1611) But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what maner spirit ye are of.
(KJV21) But He turned and rebuked them and said, "Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of.
(KJVA) But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of.
(LBP) He turned and rebuked them and said, You do not know of what spirit you are.
(LitNT) BUT TURNING HE REBUKED THEM, AND SAID, YE KNOW NOT OF WHAT SPIRIT ARE YE.
(LITV) But turning He rebuked them. And He said, You do not know of what spirit you are.
(LONT) But he turned and rebuked them, saying, Do you not know of what spirit you are?
(MKJV) But He turned and rebuked them and said, You do not know of what spirit you are.
(nas) But He turned and rebuked them, [and [237] said, "You do not know what kind of spirit you are of;
(NKJV) But He turned and rebuked them,[f] and said, “You do not know what manner of spirit you are of.
(NLV) Jesus turned and spoke sharp words to them. (*He said, 'You do not know what kind of spirit you have.
(SRB) Men Jesus v?nde sig om och tillr?ttavisade dem och sade: Ni vet inte av vilken ande ni ?r.
(Murdock R) And he turned and rebuked them, and said: You know not of what spirit you are.
(RNKJV) But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of.
(RYLT-NT) and having turned, he rebuked them, and said, 'You have not known of what spirit you are;
(TMB) But He turned and rebuked them and said, "Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of.
(TRC) Jesus turned about, and rebuked them saying: ye wot not what manner spirit ye are of.(Know ye not, what maner of spirit ye are of?)
(Tyndale) Iesus turned about and rebuked them sayinge: ye wote not what maner sprete ye are of.
(Webster) But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of.
(Wesley's) But he turning rebuked them and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of:
(WESNT) But he turning rebuked them and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of:
(WORNT) But He turned and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what spirit ye are of:
(WTNT) Iesus turned about, and rebuked them saying: ye wot not what manner spirit ye are of.
(Wycliffe) And he turnede, and blamyde hem, and seide, Ye witen not, whos spiritis ye ben;
(WycliffeNT) And he turnede, and blamyde hem, and seide, Ye witen not, whos spiritis ye ben;
(YLT) and having turned, he rebuked them, and said, `Ye have not known of what spirit ye are;
( 58 )
التي حذفت المقطع
(ASV) But he turned, and rebuked them.
(BBE) But turning round he said sharp words to them.
(CEV) But Jesus turned and corrected them for what they had said.
(ESV) But he turned and rebuked them.[6]
(ERV) But Jesus turned and criticized them for saying this.
(GNB) Jesus turned and rebuked them.
(GW) But he turned and corrected them.
(ISV) But he turned and rebuked them,
(NIRV) But Jesus turned and commanded them not to do it.
(NIV) But Jesus turned and rebuked them,
(RSVA) But he turned and rebuked them.
(RV) But he turned, and rebuked them.
(WNT) But He turned and rebuked them.
( 13 )
ولهذا اغلبية التراجم بمختلف مرجعياتها سواء تقليديه او اغلبيه مع بعض النقدية كتبت العدد كامل ولكن بعض النقديه فقط هي التي حذفته
النسخ اليوناني
اولا التي كتبت الاعداد كاملة
(GNT) Luk 9:55 στραφεὶς δὲ ἐπετίμησεν αὐτοῖς καὶ εἶπεν· οὐκ οἴδατε οἴου πνεύματος ἔστε ὑμεῖς·
Luk 9:56 ὁ Υἱὸς τοὺ ἀνθρώπου οὐκ ἦλθε ψυχάς ἀνθρώπων ἀπολέσαι, ἀλλά σῶσαι. καὶ ἐπορεύθησαν εἰς ἑτέραν κώμην.
strapheis de epetimēsen autois kai eipen ouk oidate oiou pneumatos este umeis
o gar uios tou anthrōpou ouk ēlthen psuchas anthrōpōn apolesai alla sōsai kai eporeuthēsan eis eteran kōmēn
(G-NT-TR (Steph)+) Luk 9:55 στραφεις he turned 4762 V-2APP-NSM δε But 1161 CONJ επετιμησεν and rebuked 2008 V-AAI-3S αυτοις them 846 P-DPM και and 2532 CONJ ειπεν said, 2036 V-2AAI-3S ουκ not 3756 PRT-N οιδατε Ye know 1492 V-RAI-2P οιου what manner 3634 K-GSN πνευματος of spirit 4151 N-GSN εστε are 2075 V-PXI-2P υμεις ye, 5210 P-2NP
Luk 9:56 ο the 3588 T-NSM γαρ For 1063 CONJ υιος Son 5207 N-NSM του 3588 T-GSM ανθρωπου of man 444 N-GSM ουκ is not 3756 PRT-N ηλθεν come 2064 V-2AAI-3S ψυχας lives 5590 N-APF ανθρωπων men's 444 N-GPM απολεσαι to destroy, 622 V-AAN αλλα but 235 CONJ σωσαι to save. 4982 V-AAN και And 2532 CONJ επορευθησαν they went 4198 V-AOI-3P εις to 1519 PREP ετεραν another 2087 A-ASF κωμην village. 2968 N-ASF
ΚΑΤΑ
ΛΟΥΚΑΝ 9:55 Greek NT: Greek Orthodox
Church
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στραφεὶς
δὲ ἐπετίμησεν αὐτοῖς καὶ εἶπεν· Οὐκ
οἴδατε ποίου πνεύματός ἐστε ὑμεῖς·
ΚΑΤΑ
ΛΟΥΚΑΝ 9:56 Greek NT: Greek Orthodox
Church
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ὁ
υἱὸς τοῦ ἀνθρώπου οὐκ ἦλθε ψυχὰς
ἀνθρώπων ἀπολέσαι, ἀλλὰ σῶσαι. καὶ
ἐπορεύθησαν εἰς ἑτέραν κώμην.
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ΚΑΤΑ
ΛΟΥΚΑΝ 9:55 Greek NT: Stephanus Textus Receptus (1550, with
accents)
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στραφεὶς
δὲ ἐπετίμησεν αὐτοῖς καὶ εἶπεν, Οὐκ
οἰδατε οἵου πνεύματός ἐστε ὑμεῖς·
ΚΑΤΑ
ΛΟΥΚΑΝ 9:56 Greek NT: Stephanus Textus Receptus (1550, with
accents)
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ὁ
γὰρ ὑιὸς τοῦ ἀνθρώπου οὐκ ἦλθεν
ψυχὰς ἀνθρώπων ἀπολέσαι, αλλα σῶσαι
καὶ ἐπορεύθησαν εἰς ἑτέραν κώμην
ΚΑΤΑ
ΛΟΥΚΑΝ 9:55 Greek NT: Byzantine/Majority Text
(2000)
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στραφεις
δε επετιμησεν αυτοις [και ειπεν ουκ
οιδατε οιου πνευματος εστε υμεις]
ΚΑΤΑ
ΛΟΥΚΑΝ 9:56 Greek NT: Byzantine/Majority Text
(2000)
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[ο
γαρ υιος του ανθρωπου ουκ ηλθεν ψυχας
ανθρωπων απολεσαι αλλα σωσαι] και
επορευθησαν εις ετεραν κωμην
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ΚΑΤΑ
ΛΟΥΚΑΝ 9:55 Greek NT: Textus Receptus (1550)
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στραφεις
δε επετιμησεν αυτοις και ειπεν ουκ
οιδατε οιου πνευματος εστε υμεις
ΚΑΤΑ
ΛΟΥΚΑΝ 9:56 Greek NT: Textus Receptus (1550)
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ο
γαρ υιος του ανθρωπου ουκ ηλθεν ψυχας
ανθρωπων απολεσαι αλλα σωσαι και
επορευθησαν εις ετεραν κωμην
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ΚΑΤΑ
ΛΟΥΚΑΝ 9:55 Greek NT: Textus Receptus
(1894)
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στραφεις
δε επετιμησεν αυτοις και ειπεν ουκ
οιδατε οιου πνευματος εστε υμεις
ΚΑΤΑ
ΛΟΥΚΑΝ 9:56 Greek NT: Textus Receptus
(1894)
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ο
γαρ υιος του ανθρωπου ουκ ηλθεν ψυχας
ανθρωπων απολεσαι αλλα σωσαι και
επορευθησαν εις ετεραν κωμην
(GNT-V) Luk 9:55 στραφεις δε επετιμησεν αυτοις Bκαι TSκαι TSBειπεν TSBουκ TSBοιδατε TSBοιου TSBπνευματος TSBεστε Bυμεις TSυμεις
Luk 9:56 Bο TSο TSBγαρ TSBυιος TSBτου TSBανθρωπου TSBουκ TSBηλθεν TSBψυχας TSBανθρωπων TSBαπολεσαι TSBαλλα Bσωσαι TSσωσαι και επορευθησαν εις ετεραν κωμην
التي تحتوي علي المقطع محذوف
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ΚΑΤΑ
ΛΟΥΚΑΝ 9:55 Greek NT:
Westcott/Hort
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στραφεις
δε επετιμησεν αυτοις
ΚΑΤΑ
ΛΟΥΚΑΝ 9:56 Greek NT:
Westcott/Hort
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και
επορευθησαν εις ετεραν κωμην
ΚΑΤΑ
ΛΟΥΚΑΝ 9:55 Greek NT: Tischendorf 8th
Ed.
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στραφεις
δε επετιμησεν αυτοις
ΚΑΤΑ
ΛΟΥΚΑΝ 9:56 Greek NT: Tischendorf 8th
Ed.
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και
επορευθησαν εις ετεραν κωμην
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